MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] predicting the future
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] predicting the future
Email address obfuscation in effect -- please click here to turn it off.

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
On Mon, 1 May 2006, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

Mike Miller wrote:

.....

I suppose the time spent on the maintenance of "hopeful metaphysical notions" won't stop you from getting your scientific work done. It could be like having a hobby.

You give the impression that religion will hinder one in ones scientific pursuits, rather like deafness hindered Beethoven or schizophrenia hindered Nash (not to say that they didn't achieve a lot but I am sure that these conditions did not help).


But my experience with religion and my professional career has been rather the opposite. I became a Christian at the end of my first year of my Ph.D. At that time, amongst other personal issues I faced), I felt that my ability to effectively do mathematics was at its end. I felt that I was going nowhere, very fast.

A few weeks after I became a Christian, my Ph.D. advisor began asking me what I was up to, since I had been avoiding him for the prior year. We arranged to meet the following week. I prayed about it, and asked my friends to pray. A few days later, I sat down with a blank piece of paper. It was as if all the fog and mush in my mind suddenly cleared. Ideas just followed, one after the other. When I met my advisor a few days later, I had plenty to tell him.

A few weeks later I was stuck on a problem. I prayed hard, and an hour later it came out. This proof was something I never expected, and was the cornerstone of the main results in my Ph.D. thesis. Again and again, I find prayer has really helped me in my career.

In 1995 I made a decision that maybe I would put God on the backburner for a while, and work primarily on my math career. Looking back, by far my most productive years were pre-1995.


Interesting story, but what does it mean? When I am stuck on a complex problem and need to come up with a new idea, I'll lie down on my bed and I will stare at the ceiling. I will relax as much as possible and let my ideas come to me. They do come. I wouldn't be surprised if we are both doing the same thing but in somewhat different ways. Prayer and meditation and other altered states might help creativity. Of course, to me that is not evidence for the existence of God. I wouldn't quite say that it is evidence of the helpfulness of religion because I think you can get the same effect without religion.

As I said earlier, I am not claiming that religion is altogether harmful because there are good effects. I am claiming that religions are almost all entirely false belief systems with no basis in reality. It is possible that holding false beliefs can help a person sometimes. In fact, there is some research that indicates depressed people are more realistic and are more accurate in self-appraisals than are "normal" people. We tend to think we are better than we really are. Belief in God, and one's connection to God is a sort of grandiose delusion that probably helps to lift one's mood.

I could shut up about these things and let the religious people alone, but they keep trying to dominate society, take over the government and such. We have to do things to keep them under control!

Mike

_______________________________________________
discussion mailing list
EMAIL:PROTECTED
http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/discussion