MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] new gnostic gospel discovered [Religion]
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] new gnostic gospel discovered [Religion]
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Rick Buford wrote:
I'm actually not trying to start a fight on this one, but if it was part of the "plan" for Judas to turncoat on Jesus, then it's a fair guess that the expected penalty would be death.

From this paragraph:
The account goes on to relate that Jesus refers to the other disciples, telling Judas "you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me." By that, scholars familiar with Gnostic thinking said, Jesus meant that by helping him get rid of his physical flesh, Judas will act to liberate the true spiritual self or divine being within Jesus.


However, I question the need for Jesus to have help in ridding himself of the physical. Couldn't he just as easily starved himself to death? This is smacking pretty hard of one of the plot premises behind the movie Dogma...


The Bible clearly teaches that those who sacrificed Jesus were performing God's will, e.g. Acts 4:27-28:

Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed. They did what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen.

But the Bible also clearly teaches that just because such actions are the will of God, this does not excuse the wicked intentions, e.g. Romans 9:19-24:

One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?" But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?' "Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?

What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory—even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?


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Stephen Montgomery-Smith
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