Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] there are no black helicopters...

[Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Vern Green wrote:

> > > If the court had any sense, they would have written a reasonable 
> > > definition of "sex" or "sexual relations."  The court screwed up, left 
> > > an opening, and Clinton took it.  He's a lawyer, just like most 
> > > Presidents and most Senators, Congressmen and Governors, so you should 
> > > expect him to follow the letter of the law in this kind of situation.
>
> So perhaps the same holds true for Bush, the congress should have 
> written a law that spelled out exactly what the president could and 
> could not do, but since they failed to do that, they left a door open 
> for Bush, who took it. Bush might not be a lawyer, but he has some at 
> his disposal after all.

We'll see where it goes.  The Congress has been failing us lately.  We 
have a system of "checks and balances," but only if each branch is willing 
to check on the other.

I haven't studied these laws, so it is possible that it will turn out that 
Bush did not break the law.  In that case you will be correct.  Of course, 
another important difference between Bush and Clinton is that in the Bush 
case a law was produced specifically for the purpose of requiring that the 
President's wiretapping activities be monitored.  There was no law written 
specifically to force the President to reveal details of his sex life.


> Cheating, killing and stealing? I suppose you have evidence to back up 
> those claims?  I could even ask you if you have evidence that Bush lied?


How many have died in Iraq?  100,000+ Iraqis because of the war, so far, 
and 2,000+ US soldiers.  That's large-scale killing.

Cheating?  Lying?  Look at the lead-up to the war in Iraq.  There was tons 
of deceipt there.  I'm not going to waste my time writing down details for 
someone who doesn't care.  If you want to know about it, you'll read about 
it.  There's tons of information out there.

Stealing?  Well, the national debt is increasing at a dramatic rate. 
Where do you think that money is going?  It is lining his friend's pockets 
in the oil industry, for one -- they could be taxed at a reasonable rate, 
but they wont' be.  The wealthy are not paying their share.  The war is 
expensive because so much money has to go to munitions manufacturers and 
companies like Halliburton.  Read about Jack Abramoff.  Bush knew Abramoff 
perfectly well and he lied about that.

There is lots of evidence, Vern.  What is happening couldn't be much 
plainer, but some people will never accept it.  Photographic evidence and 
confessions wouldn't be enough to convict some of these guys with people 
like you on the jury.

Mike

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