Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Computer Crime

[Shawn Parker <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

was anyone hurt or killed? did the network or systems in the school
fail? did they lose money? did the attacker manage to "steal" any
critical or private/classified data?

i think we need to look at the level of the crime and punish
accordingly. giving this kid a felony conviction for a stupid prank
that may or may not have "slowed" down their system is too harsh, imo.

we're not talking about a botched robbery where someone is killed.
we're not talking about hacking credit card systems and selling or
using private information.

we're talking about a dumb kid who told people to press f5. give me a
break. like i said, school suspension, sure...felony, no.

the problem with the law in this case is it has no weight on the
situation. it is an unfitting punishment for the crime.



On 1/6/06, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Jerry Gamblin wrote:
>
> >> I don't know what your standard of proof is, but the school official in
> >> the video said that they were having a problem with network slowness
> >> and in an attempt to figure out what was causing the slowness they
> >> identified the boy's web page.  Maybe they were mistaken, but maybe the
> >> boy has a lot of friends and maybe the school has something less than a
> >> T1.
> >>
> >
> > My standard of proof is innocent until proven guilty (Isnt that yours?).
>
> What's your standard of proof for "proven guilty."
>
>
> > My guess is someone looked at the logs and saw some hits coming from the
> > boys website and went and see what is on it, when they saw the blog
> > entry they went nut job and had him arrested.
> >
> > Whats your standard of proof that he did cause the "slowness" that some
> > unnammed school offical said that he did?
>
> Mine is irrelevant, but if they can show from their logs that many
> thousands of hits were coming into the web server with a "reload pattern"
> (repeated access to the same page from the same site) and they can show
> that there were few or none of these before the boy made his web page, and
> they can show that there were no other web pages on the internet making a
> similar request for repeated reloads, the kid is screwed.
>
> Mike
>
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