Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Korean stem cell rout...

[Vern Green <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Bush said there were 60 lines.

Bush also allotted 250 million in funding on stem cell research.



On 1/1/06, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> Christian M. Cepel wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Jonathan King wrote:
> >>
> >>> I now Mike is really annoyed by Bush's order, and I am, too.  But what
> >>> annoys me most was the fact that Bush was told that we did not, in
> >>> fact, have really enough existing stem cell lines to support near- to
> >>> mid-term research as a matter of fact, but Bush claimed that we did.
> >>> In retrospect, it was one of the first well-known cases where the
> >>> administration twisted or invented facts so that they appeared to
> >>> support a policy position that was developed independently of the
> >>> facts.
> >
> >
> > I've never understood this argument at all, and I've suspected duplicity
> > on the part of those who make it.  Probably just my ignorance... Feel
> > free to educate me.
> >
> > Why is more than one stem cell 'line' even necessary except perhaps as a
> > way to increase the speed of production of stem cells for research.
> >
> > Is a stem cell differentiated from the stem cell of another embryo in
> > such a way that different 'varieties' must be available for different
> > research.  I had thought the very definition of stem cell was that there
> > was no differentiation.... that it was a blank slate.
> >
> > I've really been under the impression that if you started out with one
> > stem cell and managed to duplicate it and then duplicate those and so on
> > and so forth that you would have all the stem cells you need, but that
> > mortality and time were reasons people wanted to do 'multiple lines'
> > simultaneously to produce more cells for research exponentially more
> > quickly.
> >
> > Please explain to me the concept of a 'line' and why X number of 'lines'
> > is not sufficient, but Y number of 'lines' would be.
> >
> > Also, please reacquaint me with the numbers.  I seem to recall there
> > being 32 available and that it was something like 50 that were wanted
> > when Bush said, "Read my lips, no more 'lines', go with whatcha got."...
> > I'm probably nowhere in the ballpark here.   It's been quite a while.
>
> And I would like to know what a "line" is - how they get stem cells, and
> what they actually deliver to the doctor/researcher.
>
>
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