MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] what next?
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] what next?
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, Vern Green wrote:

Well, if Vern Green says it, it must be true. I guess I was wrong to think that ABC, CBS and NBC were giving relatively unbiased reports. Vern Green knows that there are "standard lap dog groups out there," but he won't name those groups. And those groups, Vern Green says, are controlling the "slant" that ABC, CBS and NBC put on the news. Well, thank goodness that Vern Green got the inside info from his secret sources and shared his vague ideas with us.

Its about demographic groups Mike, maybe you have heard of them.

Maybe. I am a tenure-track faculty member in Epidemiology. Have you heard of Epidemiology? There is a relationship with demography.



In particular the 50-60 year old crowd who are so self-absorbed with themselves that they do not have time to research beyond the shill that is coming out of the major news titles. Those that grew up before the days of cable TV, back inthe days of Walter Cronkite when the only news on TV was the news they gave you. Back in the day when the term journalistic integrity meant something.

Here are a few of your unsupported claims:

People in the 50-60 year-old range are self-absorbed

Self-absorption causes people to fail to research their news sources

People in the 50-60 year-old range watch more network news than do other age groups

When Walter Cronkite was a news anchorman, journalists had more integrity than they have today

What comes out of "the major news titles" today is "shill"


But this is all just bullshit that you made up because it helps to defend your earlier inane arguments.



Of course, the first thing you jump on is the word groups like I am referring to some secret organization that is out there influencing the world. Demographic groups Mike, that is what all of the TV news channels play to. From the ads they put on during the broadcast to the stories and the slant they use to tell them.

How could anyone have known that you were thinking of demographic groups?


If my group is liberal democrats in their 50 - 60s that think the Iraq war is a bad idea, do I really want to put on a story that might upset them and have them go look somewhere else for their news. I cannot afford to keep the news on TV if I do not have advertisers. So I pitch to the crowd that I know is tuning in so to keep them tuning in week after week. It is too bad really, but after all it is all business!

That kind of concern is not one that I have heard voiced about the major news media, but it is easy to see why that kind of thinking would affect Fox News.


If you get your news from a variety of sources and you look in a variety of places for opinions and editorials, you will get a good idea of how things work. Most news sources try to be "fair." They aren't catering to some small group of viewers who prefer some bias to reality. If that is what you think, show me the data on both demographics and news content for a variety of news sources. I think you made the whole thing up.

Mike

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