Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [RELIGION] creation myths

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

> I've never met a "first mover" (your term, not theirs) who would be 
> confused by such a sophomoric argument.  It just proves that you don't 
> understand their belief.
>
> In the beginning there was God.  Period.  Nothing else.  God is beyond 
> our feeble understanding and perception of the universe, time, etc.  
> We take it on Faith that God understands the assertion where we do 
> not, and do not have to.

I think the point is that anyone can say, and believe, that in the 
beginning was anything. It's the grand assumption that gives us 
something to build the rest of our arguments against. For everyone it's 
an assumption and is seemingly totally impossible to prove or disprove 
because no argument yet argued seems to really explain where everything 
came from. Everything is usually created from coming from somewhere or 
some being but nobody can say where that somewhere or some being came from.

I solve this problem, for myself, by just erasing the assumption that 
things must come from somewhere. It makes just as much sense for 
everything to always have existed as it does to expect that everything 
had to come from somewhere and removes any confussion about where 
everything was if nowhere existed yet. :)

> The same Faith is required to accept the seemingly blatant 
> impossibility and contradiction that is the Trinity.

That never really seemed impossible on a contradiction to me. It's only 
hard to grasp if you're thinking of objects in the physical sense. Think 
in a software sense and it's perfectly logical that three objects can be 
the same as one object and yet maintain their own uniqueness. I expect 
this to start happening to humans as we start to leave our mortal bodies 
for interesting upgrades like becoming a mix of software and nanotech. A 
simpler explanation is just to think of a good marriage. Two people 
become one in almost every way. Their bodies and minds begin to mingle. 
They are still themselves but they also become a 'we'.

--
Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
http://kavlon.org


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