Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [RELIGION] creation myths - Poll numbers....

["Christian M. Cepel" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

As I said about the previous topic I'm not good at finding these things, 
but my wife came through for me once again.  Here are possible sources 
for the ~85% figure:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/beliefnet_poll_010718.html

U.S. Religious Affiliation, 2002  ( http://people-press.org/ )
(self-identification, Pew Research Council)
In February and March 2002 the Pew Research Council conducted a survey 
of 2,002 adults. Questions about religious preference were included. The 
results are below:

Religious Preference	% June 1996	% March 2001	March 2002
Christian 	84 	82 	82
Jewish 	1 	1 	1
Muslim 	* 	1 	*
Other non-Christian 	3 	2 	1
Atheist 	* 	1 	1
Agnostic 	* 	2 	2
Something else (SPECIFY) 	* 	1 	2
No preference 	11 	8 	10
Don't know/Refused 	1 	2 	1
TOTAL 	100 	100 	100

She also quoted another poll that surmised that "religion of a country 
is inversely related to wealth, except for with the US".  An interesting 
observation, though who's to say if correlation relates to causation, 
much like the FSM pirate example.  She didn't give me the link :(

Regarding your replies below.

No one is saying that you should change your beliefs.   I never said that.

I said that your post was dishonest and likely only for purposes of 
expression of contempt.

I think your reply has validated my claims.

I think also that my claim that you are capable, and more prone to make 
a well reasoned argument rather than a drive-by character assassination 
is true.

I can respect you even if I don't agree with you.  I didn't feel your 
post was in keeping with that regard.

  //Christian

Mike Miller wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Christian M. Cepel wrote:
>
> > You know Mike, I've come to expect more of you.  A lot of your 
> > arguments are well reasoned and make me think.
> >
> > This post I think however is beneath you both with consideration of 
> > intellect and of reasoning and rhetoric.
> >
> > You already know that there is a percentage of the population, we'll 
> > not say what percentage, except to say that it is significant enough 
> > to be discussed, that believes by Faith that The Holy Bible and its 
> > "myths" and stories and parables and historical accounts to be to one 
> > degree or another absolutely true.
> >
> > You know this.
> >
> > You know that people take it seriously.
>
>
> Yes, and it concerns me.  It's absolute inane madness to believe "on 
> faith" that what is written in some book is all true.  This faith-based 
> belief shows an utter contempt for reason and it is probably the 
> greatest problem currently facing humanity.  There are millions upon 
> millions of people who have a different "faith" than yours and there is 
> no way to resolve conflicts with those people because none of you can 
> admit to the possibility that you are mistaken.
>
> Why should I feel any higher regard for your "faith" than I feel for the 
> psychotic delusion of one mental patient or the idiotic "Flying 
> Spaghetti Monster?"  One of the reasons you people have been able to 
> carry on with this madness for centuries now is that you have 
> successfully harmed or intimidated people into shutting up.  Enough is 
> enough.
>
> Mike
>
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  //Christian

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