Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] false charges of sexual abuse

[Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Paul Slusarz wrote:

> Mike Miller wrote:
> > > http://taxa.epi.umn.edu/abnormal/1999/msg00867.html
>
> <quote>
>
> "First, the students who had experienced child sexual abuse (called 
> "CSA") were on average only slightly less well-adjusted than others in 
> terms of objective psychiatric and medical symptoms. Individuals can and 
> do suffer severely, but they were the exception rather than the rule.
>
> Second, most women (72 percent) recalled their childhood sexual episodes 
> negatively, but most men recalled them positively (37 percent) or 
> neutrally (29 percent).
>
> Third, only a minority of men and women reported lasting negative 
> effects, although temporary negative effects were reported by a majority 
> of women.
>
> </quote>
>
> Mike, how can you possibly construe this to mean that adult-child sex is 
> harmless or "mostly harmless"?

If 28% of women didn't even recall their childhood sexual episodes 
"negatively" then just how bad do you think the other 72% are?  I'm sure 
that if you ask people about stubbing their toes, 100% will recall it 
negatively, but we think of toe stubbing as relatively harmless.  Then we 
have 66% of men recalling childhood sexual experiences positively or 
neutrally.  There might even be more help than harm in those experiences.

The problem is that there are sexual sadists out there who will kidnap and 
murder children.  This makes headlines.  Other cases are often unreported. 
So the public view of adult-child sex is that it is horrible beyond 
belief, but the reality is that many cases are not even harmful.  Of 
course it is a mixed bag and some of the girls in the 72% were raped, or 
gang raped, or incest victims, etc.  Many cases are not coerced and the 
effect usually is less damaging.


> We'd need to look into the matter for boys in more detail. How many of 
> the ones who positively recalled their experiences were gay?

How many were 17 years old and having sex with a 25-year-old neighborhood 
housewife?  That may be considered adult-child sex.


> if someone changed their sexual orientation as a result of adult-child 
> sex, is that something you can consider harmless?

We would never know.  If a teen, say, has sex with an adult man, that may 
be because the teen was gay already, or considering it.  If the teen was a 
willing 17-year-old and the "adult" man was 22, how much of a crime would 
that be?  It shouldn't be much of a crime, if you ask me, but the 
22-year-old would probably face jail time in many states.


> For boys having sex with adult women I have anecdotal evidence from a 
> sexuologist that they may have a difficulty forming relationships with 
> women later down the road because of how strongly the sexual experiences 
> get imprinted. Because our culture considers "scoring" as one of the 
> best things that can happen to a man, these boys could still report 
> their experiences as pleasurable and only appear "slightly less 
> adjusted" on average.

I'm not familiar with that research.  I'm not sure I understand the idea - 
are you saying that men remain attached to the first woman they have sex 
with?  That seems unlikely to me, but if there is a study, I'll look at 
it.

Mike

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