Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] false charges of sexual abuse

["Paul Slusarz" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Mike Miller wrote:
>> I dealt with the global warming issue in my last message.
Here is
>> one article:
>>
>> http://taxa.epi.umn.edu/abnormal/1999/msg00867.html

<quote>

"First, the students who had experienced child sexual abuse
(called "CSA")
were on average only slightly less well-adjusted than others in
terms of
objective psychiatric and medical symptoms. Individuals can and
do suffer
severely, but they were the exception rather than the rule.

Second, most women (72 percent) recalled their childhood sexual
episodes
negatively, but most men recalled them positively (37 percent)
or
neutrally (29 percent).

Third, only a minority of men and women reported lasting
negative effects,
although temporary negative effects were reported by a majority
of women.

</quote>

Mike, how can you possibly construe this to mean that
adult-child sex is harmless or "mostly harmless"? At most it
means that humans can cope with it later in their life. It is
clear that it isn't harmless to women. We'd need to look into
the matter for boys in more detail. How many of the ones who
positively recalled their experiences were gay? Do not forget
that DSM does not consider homosexuals as maladjusted, but if
someone changed their sexual orientation as a result of
adult-child sex, is that something you can consider harmless?
For boys having sex with adult women I have anecdotal evidence
from a sexuologist that they may have a difficulty forming
relationships with women later down the road because of how
strongly the sexual experiences get imprinted. Because our
culture considers "scoring" as one of the best things that can
happen to a man, these boys could still report their
experiences as pleasurable and only appear "slightly less
adjusted" on average.

>> It is generally quite hard to demonstrate a harmful effect
of sexual
>> contact with children.  One reason for this is that we
cannot
>> randomly assign kids to have sex with adults!  The other
reason is

Hell, I'm sure it's easier than to demonstrate global warming.
I bring it up not without a reason. I like to consider myself
open minded to scientific evidence, but what you are bringing
up reminds me of the "intelligent design" and "global warming
is a myth" kind of science.

>>> If your genitals were fondled by a hairy truck driver you
may revise
>>> your opinion.
>>
>> What sort of severe damage are you suggesting would come
from this
>> kind of contact?  Yes, if the fondler were unattractive, the
>> fondling might be more unpleasant.  But would his hairiness
cause me
>> to become mentally ill? Would it cause me to become ill or
to commit
>> suicide?  If so, how?  What is the mechanism?

I guess if you ever end up in prison, you'll have a much easier
time with this sort of attitude. Developing deviant sexual
behaviors (including forcing the same on others) and a loss of
self esteem are two immediate results that come to mind,
though.

That's probably as far as I can get to today.

Paul


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