RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Crack'n WEP

["Spurling, Shannon" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

We aren't talking about the Internet in general. We are talking about
WiFi.
Yes, as you suggest, some protocols are created to address a specific
desire for security on an insecure infrastructure. SSH is one of them.
The issue with WiFi is that you are bringing insecurity to a location
that used to be inherently secure. It's almost like putting private
Ethernet ports on the outside of your office. Even if you are on the 4th
floor, there is most likely a public area, like a reception area. Would
you put internal Ethernet ports right there for any one to use?



Shannon Spurling
WAN Engineer -Specialist

MOREnet, Network Services, Core Network
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Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Crack'n WEP

On Apr 5, 2005 3:24 PM, Spurling, Shannon <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> All right, it sounds like semantics. What should be said is, there is
no
> predictable limitation in accessing it. You may have a certainty that
> the signal is not useable at ground level outside your building, but
> construction on your building or changes to your environment out side
> your control may change all that. Things you would never associate
with
> your network security. Besides, signals from elevated sources, such as
> an AP on the fourth floor, usually travel further. And who is to say
> that someone might not juice up his WiFi card and attempt to access
your
> network? The problem is that there is no predictable way to determine
> who is in your network.

How is your argument different than saying, the Internet is by
definition insecure because you can't control who is on it?  Yet we
still use SSL and consider it secure enough.  For that matter, how
about using SSL over a wireless network, like I'm doing to type this
email?  Secure or not?

Regards,
Mark
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