RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Disgust with list/politics (Was:http://www.ploystory.com/)

["Davis, Ryan W." <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

> You mean telling you to wait until Wednesday to send your "angry crap"
to > the list?  I don't think a single phrase merits a "bile-filled
response."

Bile-filled response is what I use to describe your tendency to not
accept any idea but your own and then demean someone because of it, you
do not simply disagree, you stomp on others opinions just because they
do not align with yours this is surprisingly similar to many of the
politicians you despise, much like how you would describe Bush's
approach to international political diversity. This is close minded. It
appears you have a severe case of "everyone else is crazy and I am the
only sane person" (non-clinical terminology intended).

> You might be doing it today in an attempt to sway votes.

What part of "I carry no party affiliation whatsoever, and as a result
of your comments, not only am I not swayed to any side, I am disgusted
with politics more than ever and am fairly disappointed at having to
vote tomorrow" do you not fucking understand. I am not a scheming
republican or god knows what other political monstrosities you have
nightmares about at night.

This smells quite a lot like many of the borderline insane conspiracy
theories you have aired here. People like you are the same people that
have mobilized fleets of lawyers waiting for the outcome of the election
that they do not like. Regardless of the outcome, there will be
aftermath, even if it is a completely fair election or not.

If you are that much of a conspiracy nut, put on your tin foil hat
because I am reading your mind.

>Ryan, the election is tomorrow.  It will be over.  Meanwhile, we 
>have the MLUG list just like always.

This is where we disagree, and I am not the only one that disagrees with
you.

> I have no idea what you're talking about.  What behavior?

The fact that you are a close-minded egomaniac, I happen to have spoken
to old co-workers of yours before.

> Yes.

This comment was obviously not for you, and you knew that, you were just
trying to be witty. Don't, it doesn't suit you.

> Get a sense of humor.

There was nothing that could be remotely construed as humor in your
emails, do not try to make it appear that you were just having a
peaceful debate, you aren't. You never are. You browbeat people for
being different than you.

In closing, since you are that egomaniac, you are not going to let this
die until you have the last word. This is how you work in every other
putrid discussion you have had with other people under the guise of
"Civil Discourse". No matter how tired I and others are of you musings
you will continue like a child, whereas an adult would just let it alone
and be the bigger person. Unfortunately no one else will agree with me
here because they have stopped reading discussions you are involved in
much like I did because they saw what resulted. So, here I will stop,
and will make an exit. From here out you can have the last world and in
your small little world that you think you know everything in, you can
consider yourself the victor and believe that your point of view is
always right in a world of billions of different people.

However, if you want to send a response, don't bother, I will not read
it nor respond (no, seriously, I won't), but you will anyway. You can
talk to yourself, which is what you basically always do, to make
yourself feel superior. However, I find it funny that for being
associated with the field of psychology you don't really do enough
analysis of your own neurosis.


Ryan

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Disgust with list/politics (Was:
http://www.ploystory.com/)

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Davis, Ryan W. wrote:

> Well, first I do know a lot about what you have to say because it is 
> what drove me to stop reading in the first place. That is a little 
> deductive reasoning there, it should be very apparent.

Yes, but you suddenly sent a message to the list accusing me of saying 
things that are ruining the list for everyone.


> I also know, that you do not respect (you even go to great lengths to 
> demean) anyone who doesn't agree wholeheartedly with you. Case in
point 
> your bile filled response.

You mean telling you to wait until Wednesday to send your "angry crap"
to 
the list?  I don't think a single phrase merits a "bile-filled
response."


> If you would have read, and tried to understand my comment, you would 
> have seen that it wasn't angry at all, just matter of fact. Why would 
> waiting till after Wednesday to make my comment matter?

You might be doing it today in an attempt to sway votes.  Your note
wasn't 
"matter of fact" at all.  You said that I had "disenfranchised potential

voters" - do you know what that means?  If people have lost interest in 
politics because they have learned something from my postings, most of 
which are purely factual newspaper articles and the like, then so be it.


> The thing is that you refuse to understand that your comments have not

> helped to enrich this list whatsoever; in fact they have hurt it our 
> community is weaker because of it. If you continue to fail to grasp
this 
> fact, you will soon be talking to yourself over email.

Wake up, Ryan, the election is tomorrow.  It will be over.  Meanwhile,
we 
have the MLUG list just like always.


> I refuse to get into childish arguments so do not attempt to respond
if 
> you do not wish to understand, just talk to yourself. I know people
that 
> know you personally and have worked with you, and this behavior is not

> uncommon from what I understand.

I have no idea what you're talking about.  What behavior?  If you're 
talking about sending political messages, you've been misled.  If you're

talking about sending e-mail messages, you have a point.  If you're 
talking about disagreeing with people, you have another point.  Yes, 
people have to present a descent argument to persuade me.  I don't agree

with people in order to get along with them.


> Anyone, am I completely out of line with this comment?

Yes.

Get a sense of humor.

Mike
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