Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Was the president wired during the firstdebate?

[Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Vern Green wrote:

> Look I watched the debate, I was not paying any attention to the 
> president's back to notice the object, I was more focused on what was 
> being said at the debate. I did not record it so I cannot go back and 
> verify it either way so there you go. DOes that make my opinion any more 
> or less important, after all we are just putting up our opinions here.

Vern - you are not expressing an opinion when you say that you saw 
nothing.  I am not expressing an opinion when I say that I saw something. 
If you don't happen to see something, does that mean that it isn't there?


> Look, cloth does things

Like form rectangles against someone's back?  That's a new one for me!


> to say the presidents tailor is incorrect is as absurd as saying there 
> was something under the jacket.

The only thing absurd is that someone who didn't happen to see anything 
would claim that there was nothing there.


> I looked at the pictures, I looked at them again just a few minutes ago. 
> And I cannot say on my own experience that there was or was not 
> something there.

Great.  So I guess you can stop sending messages now.


> So in the absense of someone else coming out and saying they have 
> conclusive evidence that there was something, I have to go with what I 
> am told in this matter. Especially considering the source of these 
> rumors.

But you've been told a lot of different things and you are choosing the 
Republican party line.  Fine.  But that is not a choice based on reason.


> so you see, this is something generated from the Internet and forced 
> into the mainstream by the buzz that is being generated.

Right - just like the Dan Rather forged document scandal.


> Oh and if you read the stories, you will note this whole thing was fired 
> up because FOX NEWS broke the rule of not filming from the back. Notice 
> there is no shots of Kerry's back on the Internet, I wonder if he had a 
> mysterious bulge too?

No, he didn't have one.  Of course I looked for it because I wondered if 
it was something related to microphoning the candidates, or some other 
technical thing required of both debators.  The thing that did *not* occur 
to me while I watched the debate was "hey, maybe there's no rectangular 
object under the back of Bush's jacket."

Mike
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