RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what majority wants Bush?

["F Vernon Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I agree with your representation of Ron Reagan, the only reason he is given
any kind of clout is because of his father, if Ron senior were still alive,
Ron Reagan would still be a forgotten voice. He was never a supporter of his
father's anyway so why should we care what he thinks now?

Kerry's problem stemmed from him flaunting his military service. He wanted
to make Bush's problems in the National Guard a political agenda. Well now
there are people out there that are calling him to task. Who is correct? I
certainly was not there so I don't know, but what I do know is that he has
been shown on television throwing away the very medals that he now wants to
have people elect him over. He wants to say "Look at me, I am a war hero!"
Yet he threw those very decorations away in a public display.


This is what is causing Kerry problems. There are many Vietnam vets, world
war 2 vets and ex-military that have a deep pride in what it means to be a
veteran. To see someone so easily swayed into desecrating those things they
were proud to get for their recognition and later want to be named
president? That is a problem for a lot of people. 

 In reality, whether or not a person served in the military should not mean
anything to who is president. Clinton never served, and I am pretty sure
Reagan never served, but he might have honestly I cannot remember. The point
here is character, it is always about character.

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> I watched Kerry speak, and I don't think Jerry sounds uninformed or like
> an idiot. I think there are some very serious issues about how Kerry is
> handling the whole thing. They tried to put Bush on the spot about it
> and he's not biting, and that makes them very angry. Personally, there
> is no reason for Bush to even acknowledge those ads, and Kerry would
> have been in a much better position if he had done the same thing or sat
> down and addressed them directly once in a press conference. He made his
> service a central point, and there are some people who have a problem
> with that. If he had focused on his senate performance, the ads would
> have been about his senate performance. The ads against Bush are about
> his presidential performance. Some are against his character. He has not
> sent out threatening letters against MOVEON.ORG concerning the Hitler
> ads. Some of the stuff they say about Bush is nastier than what any of
> the veterans have said about Kerry. What I don't get is just the rabid
> hatred people have for Bush, or Kerry for that matter. Some of the down
> right schizophrenic paranoia type accusations I hear about knowing about
> 9/11, how they are lining their pockets or how the corporations have
> been running the show for the oil companies.
> I personally don't think Kerry would be a strong leader, but that's just
> my view. I am sure he's a very likeable guy. I am sure Bush is a very
> likeable guy. The fact that Ron Regan doesn't like him doesn't carry
> much weight with me because he seams like an over opinionated person.
> That completely colors his judgment. I am just very turned off by people
> who say Bush is evil and we are going to be destroyed if he gets 4 more
> years. It's over exaggeration at best. It's the kind of talk dishonest
> marketing people use to get you to buy a product, and it has very little
> weight. Personally, I saw the economy was way over inflated under
> Clinton and it was only a matter of time before it burst. It was all
> credit spending, and not real wealth. So many people I know have been
> spending the last three years digging them selves out of the credit lie.
> At least the last two years of recovery have been real. It's been slow,
> but it's real. Either way, we will survive. I'm just going to vote for
> the person I think will make the wiser choices, and that's not always
> "playing ball".
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Jerry Gamblin wrote:
> 
> > Kerry is running his [election] on:
> >
> > Hey, stop saying things about me and I am not bush.
> 
> 
> Do you think that Kerry should ignore the lies that are being told about
> 
> his military service record?
> 
> If you watched Kerry and others at the Democratic Convention, or you
> have
> read anything by him or ever bothered to listen to him speak, you would
> know why you sound like an idiot to informed people.
> 
> Mike
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