RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what majority wants Bush?

["F Vernon Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

OH and just to clarify, I am an isolationist. I do not believe in this World
economy BS. This so-called World economy has done more damage to the US than
anything Bush could have ever done. We have lost more jobs due to
outsourcing, more manufacturing jobs because of the bottom line. 

Go anywhere else in the World and the regular people, while they hate the
country as a whole, would die for the chance to come here. If the country is
so bad and hated why are we being inundated with illegal aliens from the
south?

My point is this: We do not need the rest of the world. How many world wars
were started by our actions? Who gives a crap what the Germans think? We
have had to spend more lives and resources dealing with them. Who cares what
the French say? They have continually refused to defend themselves, also let
us not forget the reason we got involved in Vietnam in the first place. 

The middle east is never going to like us no matter what. This is not a Bush
issue, this has been this way since the inception of Isreal. Who else?
Russia? Interestingly enough Russia is very silent about us right now. North
Korea? Again who should care, they have been contained for a very long time
and only recently have been flexing their muscle. 

You know we allow Japan to ship cars here relatively free of tariffs, in
comparison how much do you think American companies pay to sell in Japan?
You can insert any other country in this place and you will see the same
thing. I can buy a Corvette for what $40,000 in America? Try $60,000 or more
in Norway. When I went to Norway recently I brought a half gallon of Jack
Daniels which cost me $30, it was worth over $120 in Norway.

If they want us to care about what they think, then how about opening up to
us and allowing us to sell there for the same tariffs we allow them to pay.
If this is isolationism then fine, I call it fairness.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMAIL:PROTECTED [mailto:discussion-
> EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:43 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what majority wants Bush?
> 
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Chad Whiting wrote:
> 
> > The Cold War - The massive
> > USSR against the US, this was another huge us-against them scenario.
> 
> They were not massive.  They were puny by comparison and they were
> economically self-destructing just trying to keep up with us.
> 
> 
> > The civil war - us against ourselves but again supporting what was
> > right.
> 
> How can "we" be right in a war against ourselves?
> 
> 
> > Afghanistan - us against them going after terrorists.
> 
> Any president would have done the same thing, so Bush gets no special
> points for that one from me.
> 
> 
> > Iraq (although more controversial) Us against the world because no one
> > would support us in taking down a dictatorship that was a corrupt
> > tyrany.
> 
> This is very naive.  There are *many* corrupt tyrannies around the globe.
> Why should the world support our choice of this one to attack?  Bush had
> to give a reason for it, so he lied, but not everyone believed his lies.
> Of course, in retrospect, France and others were correct - there were no
> weapons of mass destruction.
> 
> 
> > It's not Isolationist, isolationist would mean we isolate ourselves and
> > ignore the rest of the world.
> 
> Sorry, Chad, I was responding to a man who had just written, "I don't give
> a flying rat what the rest of the world wants."  So I think he was
> ignoring the rest of the world and I think I am, by your own criteria,
> quite correct to call him an isolationist.
> 
> Mike
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