RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what majority wants Bush?

["F Vernon Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I apologize for hijacking your thread. You are not a hypocrite. Please
accept my apologies for insulting you.

> -----Original Message-----
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> EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodsmall, Ryan (IATS)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:10 PM
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> Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what majority wants Bush?
> 
> You're changing the subject, and I don't appreciate it.  I asked a
> perfectly valid question and you come spouting some rhetoric about
> celebrity this and hypocrisy that.
> 
> I am a PERSON, not a celebrity.  I just happen to be a liberal.  I don't
> give a flip about what Rob Reiner or Michael Moore think; I can use my
> own brain, thank you very much.  Like I said, I donate my time, as well
> as my money in some cases, to causes that I see as good.  I am not
> delivering a message from celebrities, and I guarantee you that anything
> out of my mouth is MY thought.  I think about things using my own brain,
> and I act on them as I see fit.
> 
> This has nothing to do with celebrities.  And regardless of what you
> think, I have a pretty clear vision of what I believe, and there are no
> diametrically opposed ideas duking it out in my brain.  I'm extremely
> far left, much farther than most liberal Democrats, and I am fine with
> that.  I am fine with you being a conservative.  But please don't call
> me a hypocrite.  You don't even know me, and it's childish to assume
> that you can make a judgement call like that.
> 
>      ryan woodsmall
>         EMAIL:PROTECTED
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMAIL:PROTECTED
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> > Vernon Green
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:51 PM
> > To: 'MLUG Off-Topic Discussion'
> > Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what majority wants Bush?
> >
> > The problem I have with Liberals is their hypocrisy.
> >
> > We have liberals who are multi-millionaires who like to tout how the
> > government should raise taxes to pay for social programs.
> > They complain that
> > we are not "compassionate" enough, they complain that
> > corporate America is
> > evil and should be taxed into oblivion.
> >
> > My question to them is, where your compassion? If you drive
> > through Beverly
> > Hills and you see Rob Rieners' house, or Michael Moore's home, these
> > multi-million dollar dwellings that took nearly a forest of
> > trees to build,
> > which helped to promote urban blight. I ask myself "Who the
> > &*%^ are they to
> > dictate?" The first group of people who should be taxed is
> > the actors and
> > actresses, the sports athletes, the damn politicians who make
> > millions. Lets
> > take 75% of their wealth first, then lets go after the rest.
> >
> > Of course then you have these people screaming about the evil
> > of SUV's while
> > they are driving their 45 foot stretch limo through the
> > streets. They scream
> > about deforestation, and they build 20,000 square foot homes.
> > They scream
> > about gun ownership but insist that they be allowed to have armed body
> > guards.
> >
> > This is the problem with your liberalism. It is not the
> > message, it is the
> > perception of those delivering the message.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: EMAIL:PROTECTED [mailto:discussion-
> > > EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodsmall, Ryan (IATS)
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:08 AM
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> > > Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what majority wants Bush?
> > >
> > > > And then change again when they graduate, get jobs, and
> > start paying
> > > > taxes...which is about the time they realize that all those social
> > > > programs cost alot of money.
> > >
> > > Why do people assume this?  If anything, when I graduated
> > from college
> > > and started making enough money to support myself a few years ago, I
> > > became *more* liberal.  I don't give much money to
> > charities, but I do
> > > volunteer a lot.
> > >
> > > And yes, social programs do cost money, but I don't need to
> > buy a new
> > > car every year and my expendable income covers my hobbies
> > even with the
> > > large chunk of my paycheck that comes out in taxes.  I
> > don't mind that
> > > tax money going to social/community organizations as long as it's
> > > beneficial to everyone here at home.  As it stands now, the
> > majority of
> > > the tax money I pay is headed toward wars and that benefits
> > almost no
> > > one here in our country.
> > >
> > > So I'll keep being a socially-minded liberal and you can
> > consider it a
> > > phase if you want.  But I have a pretty strong feeling that
> > it isn't.
> > >
> > >      ryan woodsmall
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