Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Abortion - was Missouri Young Republicans?

[Jennifer Dozar <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Taking the birth control pill while pregnant mainly leads to birth defects.  The effectivness of the pill is only as effective as the person who uses it and the rate is still only about 98% i believe. I knew a few women who got pregnant even while on the pill, taking it every day, same time.  But I think that male family was extremely potent in their fertility. 

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:54:56AM -0500, Brent Deterding wrote:
> As I understand it, most birth-control pills prevent the egg from being
> fertilized in the first place. I understood only "morning after" pills
> terminated a fertilized egg. But yes, if the egg is fertilized I believe there
> is life. Terminating that life fits my definition for murder.
> 
> That said, those are my beliefs. As for public policy . . . I'm comfortable
> banning PBAs after the fetus is considered viable. I believe this is where
> science can agree life begins. Prior to that I'm not comfortable imposing my
> religious beliefs (life at conception) on others - I will trust God to handle
> those cases.  
> 
> I happen to believe that case of danger to the mothers life or extreme illness
> in the fetus is up to the doctor - as you said before - doctors make life/death
> decisions every day - let them do their job. 
> 
> -- Brent 
> 
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> > [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
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> > To: MLUG Off-Topic Discussion
> > Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Abortion - was Missouri 
> > Young Republicans?
> > 
> > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Brent Deterding wrote:
> > 
> > > Seems like a reasonable position - I happen to disagree. I believe 
> > > life begins at conception. As such - if that egg is fertilized you 
> > > have life
> > > - it's a moral thing. Ending life is murder, so I'm against 
> > abortions.
> > 
> > So if a woman takes a birth control pill, knowing that it 
> > will end the life of her fertilized egg, she is committing 
> > premeditated murder.  What do you think is the appropriate 
> > punishment? -- Life in prison or execution?  Then we'll have 
> > to prosecute the accomplices - the corporate criminals who 
> > produce the pills that are useful for only one purpose: 
> > murdering fertilized eggs.
> > 
> > 
> > > I seriously question why we can't all agree that abortions after a 
> > > baby is viable is horrendous. I don't honestly know what, if any, 
> > > argument there is against it?
> > 
> > I haven't heard any disagreement about that, except in the 
> > case where the mother is in danger or the fetus is seriously 
> > ill.  Of course, there are many anti-abortion advocates who 
> > will claim that it is better to let both mother and child die 
> > than to abort the fetus.  I disagree with them.
> > 
> > Mike
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