RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Abortion - was Missouri Young Republicans?

["F Vernon Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

One thing about abortion.

I think there is a problem with the thinking in this regard. I have heard of
people who have been in accidents with pregnant women. Some of these women,
while not terribly damaged themselves have lost the baby in these accidents.

As long as there is abortion where someone can end the life claiming that it
is not "really a living thing" then how can we as a society have a double
standard that in the above cases a women that loses a child in an accident
can claim damages? 

You see that to me is troublesome. If we want to say that life begins at
conception, then fine, collect damages, if we want to say that life does not
begin until birth at in the third trimester, then no, women should not be
able to claim damages on the death of a fetus.

The same thing could be said about women who smoke, drink, or do drugs while
pregnant. If the fetus is not a living thing, then we cannot hold the woman
responsible for anything she does that causes the death of the fetus.

This is my opinion, to me things are just this black and white.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Deterding
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:33 AM
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Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Abortion - was Missouri Young Republicans?

Thanks - informative! It appears I could be wrong - depending on the woman.
I
guess there is also debate about when conception occurs. Hrm

-- Brent 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:01 AM
> To: MLUG Off-Topic Discussion
> Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Abortion - was Missouri 
> Young Republicans?
> 
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Brent Deterding wrote:
> 
> > As I understand it, most birth-control pills prevent the egg from 
> > being fertilized in the first place. I understood only 
> "morning after" 
> > pills terminated a fertilized egg. But yes, if the egg is 
> fertilized I 
> > believe there is life. Terminating that life fits my 
> definition for murder.
> 
> 
> Here's some good info on this topic:
> 
> http://www.epigee.org/guide/pill.html#box
> 
> See, it isn't just morning after pills.  It's most or all 
> oral contraceptive pills that work after fertilization.
> 
> 
> > That said, those are my beliefs. As for public policy . . . I'm 
> > comfortable banning PBAs after the fetus is considered 
> viable. I believe 
> > this is where science can agree life begins. Prior to that I'm not 
> > comfortable imposing my religious beliefs (life at 
> conception) on others 
> > - I will trust God to handle those cases.
> >
> > I happen to believe that case of danger to the mothers life 
> or extreme 
> > illness in the fetus is up to the doctor - as you said 
> before - doctors 
> > make life/death decisions every day - let them do their job.
> 
> Well, that worked out well!  Despite our differences, we 
> don't disagree 
> about policy.
> 
> Mike
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