RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Abortion - was Missouri Young Republicans?

["F Vernon Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Actually Brent you are wrong.

What the birth control pill does, according to my wife, is it keeps the egg
from attaching itself to the uterus. The egg might become fertilized, but it
is passed during the menstrual cycle. The hormones of the pill cause this.
So yes the egg is actually an embryo when it is passed.

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[mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Deterding
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:55 PM
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As I understand it, most birth-control pills prevent the egg from being
fertilized in the first place. I understood only "morning after" pills
terminated a fertilized egg. But yes, if the egg is fertilized I believe
there
is life. Terminating that life fits my definition for murder.

That said, those are my beliefs. As for public policy . . . I'm comfortable
banning PBAs after the fetus is considered viable. I believe this is where
science can agree life begins. Prior to that I'm not comfortable imposing my
religious beliefs (life at conception) on others - I will trust God to
handle
those cases.  

I happen to believe that case of danger to the mothers life or extreme
illness
in the fetus is up to the doctor - as you said before - doctors make
life/death
decisions every day - let them do their job. 

-- Brent 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:19 PM
> To: MLUG Off-Topic Discussion
> Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Abortion - was Missouri 
> Young Republicans?
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Brent Deterding wrote:
> 
> > Seems like a reasonable position - I happen to disagree. I believe 
> > life begins at conception. As such - if that egg is fertilized you 
> > have life
> > - it's a moral thing. Ending life is murder, so I'm against 
> abortions.
> 
> So if a woman takes a birth control pill, knowing that it 
> will end the life of her fertilized egg, she is committing 
> premeditated murder.  What do you think is the appropriate 
> punishment? -- Life in prison or execution?  Then we'll have 
> to prosecute the accomplices - the corporate criminals who 
> produce the pills that are useful for only one purpose: 
> murdering fertilized eggs.
> 
> 
> > I seriously question why we can't all agree that abortions after a 
> > baby is viable is horrendous. I don't honestly know what, if any, 
> > argument there is against it?
> 
> I haven't heard any disagreement about that, except in the 
> case where the mother is in danger or the fetus is seriously 
> ill.  Of course, there are many anti-abortion advocates who 
> will claim that it is better to let both mother and child die 
> than to abort the fetus.  I disagree with them.
> 
> Mike
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