RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Missouri Young Republicans?

["Norris, Matthew Henry \(UMC-Student\)" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

That's another good one.  I loved the "blob" comment.  Where do you classify the ones that get their brains turned into scrambled eggs and are then dismembered for removal from the womb?

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From: EMAIL:PROTECTED on behalf of Jerry Gamblin
Sent: Thu 7/8/2004 10:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Missouri Young Republicans?



>"People" don't die because of abortion.  Often, the thing that dies is
a
>small blob of tissue.  To compare this death to the deaths of
full-grown
>men and women with children, spouses and friends is a bit insulting to
>their memories, isn't it?

A beating heart is a beating heart... if you don't think that way it's
your choice, but I do and I think that is morally wrong. I think it a
bit insulting to the 1.45 million blob's of tissue that were "taken care
of" this year and that you do think more highly of them.

>What does John Kerry think?  It's hard for me to find the answer with
all
>the crap on the web.  Kerry voted *for* the BBA on at least one
occasion.

So he voted for the BBA before he voted against it? That sounds like
Kerry to me : )

>Your one example of Kerry changing his mind did not show any change in
his
>views.  He first said "we need the Patriot Act now," then he said, "we
>don't need the Patriot Act any longer."  That's not a change.  It would

>have been a change if he had said initially "we need the Patriot Act
>forever," but he didn't say that.

When you vote something into law you are saying "we need the *******
forever" unless it is written in law that it expires. If he is now so
opposed to it why doesn't he introduce a bill to overturn it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:06 AM
To: MLUG Off-Topic Discussion
Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Missouri Young Republicans?

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Jerry Gamblin wrote:

> Regarding 1:
> In His Senate Career, Kerry Has Voted Against Balanced Budget
Amendment
> At Least Five Times.
[snip]
> Bush on the other hand actually was the one who was bushing for a
> balanced budget amendment.

I suppose "Balanced Budget Amendment" sounds like a good thing, so you
believe that fiscally responsible people should vote for it.  But do you

know why John Kerry voted against it?  Did he never make a public
statement?  Here's a conservative guy who thinks the BBA is a bad idea:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brucebartlett/bb20030715.shtml

What does John Kerry think?  It's hard for me to find the answer with
all
the crap on the web.  Kerry voted *for* the BBA on at least one
occasion.


> Regarding 2:
>
> When more people die a day because of abortion then the total of 9/11
> and Iraq I have a strong opinion that it should be outlawed. Maybe we
> shouldn't be in Iraq, but maybe we shouldn't be aborting 5000 babies a

> day.

"People" don't die because of abortion.  Often, the thing that dies is a

small blob of tissue.  To compare this death to the deaths of full-grown

men and women with children, spouses and friends is a bit insulting to
their memories, isn't it?


> Regarding 3:
>
> He is a senator, if he is voting on things then changing his mind
about
> them 6-10 months later is that really someone you want running your
> country? He isn't a normal guy... he cast 1 of 100 of the most
important
> votes in the world. He should really know where he stands on an issue
> before he votes is my opinion.

Your one example of Kerry changing his mind did not show any change in
his
views.  He first said "we need the Patriot Act now," then he said, "we
don't need the Patriot Act any longer."  That's not a change.  It would
have been a change if he had said initially "we need the Patriot Act
forever," but he didn't say that.

By the way, I think it's OK for people to change their minds.

Mike
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