RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Is science a religion?

["F Vernon Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Evolution is a prime example of science being a religion. Scientists have
not been able to prove that man evolved from apes like they want to. Oh,
they have been able to piece together a few things here and there that they
claim support the claim that man has evolved, but they have yet to uncover
anything that fully supports it.

On the other hand I can say that my belief actually allows me to believe
that evolution takes place while still allowing me to believe in a creator.
The one main point to is this: If man evolved from apes, then why are there
still apes? If man was once truly an ape, would it not stand to reason that
all apes then would have evolved? And if all apes did not evolve, then what
set the man-apes apart from the rest? And if there was something
fundamentally that caused the man-apes to evolve, then were they really apes
at all?

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Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Is science a religion?

This *is* a good place for throwing ideas/ideologies out for review.  In 
the past things have gone downhill in discussions because I think there 
was not a clear definition of terms, that's imho of course.  My own 
fault is not having a wider view of what people consider "religion" 
and/or "Christianity"... and reading others' opinions helps me broaden 
my thinking.

An issue in the Christian world I am keen on right now is the belief in 
the age of the universe/world/humanity.  Being spoonfed since a lad that 
the universe is only around six thousand years old, it was only a 
handful of years ago I found that you can be a Christian and believe in 
the big bang (yes, by a Creator) and the universe being billions of 
years old (nope, no big 'E' Evolution).  It's a debate that too often 
causes rifts when there are bigger issues like salvation that should be 
focused on.

--Chris

Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

> Rick Buford wrote:
> 
>> Realizing that there is no possibility that we're going to convince each 
>> other over a linux discussion list, I truly hope that religion provides 
>> something in your life that makes it a better place.
> 
> Yes, I agree that there is little chance of convincing each other, at
least in 
> the short term.  But I find this particular group very stimulating - there
are 
> people from so many different points of view, who are actually willing to
engage 
> in discussion, that seems to stay relatively civil.  Whenever I have some 
> opinion, about most anything (politics, religion, computers, local
restaurants), 
> I find this forum is a great place to express myself, because the
responses are 
> so varied and interesting and honest.  It certainly helps me sharpen or
modify 
> my views if I am prepared to air them out in public, and allow others to 
> critisise them.
> 
> Best, Stephen
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