[MLUG - DISCUSSION] Re: [MLUG] guess what

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Prehaps so. I don't really see these as anything you can't do without 
Java as easy or easier but I'm willing to be proven wrong. Why is Java 
better for application servers than Python, Perl, Ruby, or any 
otherhigh-level language. Tho I think that also gets into Java the 
language vrs Java the enterprise system. I believe it was JKing that 
mention Jython which is Python compiled into Java byte codes. I haven't 
looked to see if Perl or Ruby have done such a thing too but I have seen 
other languages implemented that way. Are there language features that 
make Java the best or is it mostly the extra tools that are available 
for Java?

Maybe a better question. What could other languages learn from Java to, 
in your opinion, be as useful. Is it possible to describe those nice 
features you mentioned in more details rather than buzzwords?

> As a note, Java may be a bit trickier to code for in an enterprise 
> situation, but it's also one hell of a lot better in an enterprise 
> situation when you consider all that it can do.  Look at the concept 
> of Application Servers, which run Java in memory, VERY optimized, 
> allow caching, clustering solutions, machine independence, 
> multi-layered and business logic independence in a relatively easily 
> implemented manner, and MANY other features, and you're bashing Java 
> without really understanding where Java comes in.
> Java is an AWESOME enterprise system.  .NET is one of the few things 
> currently available which can compete with it, feature and ease of use 
> wise.  Which is of course why .NET was created and is becoming as 
> popular as it is.
> I'm not saying Python is a bad language, but I AM saying Java is a 
> good language, and bashing it as "buzz word" or whatever means you 
> really don't understand the technology and features set behind it.  
> I've been doing C programming and Java programming for quite a while.  
> For a lot of things, Java just blows other languages away. 


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