RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] southpark speaks the truth

["Woodsmall, Ryan \(IATS\)" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Who made it personal?  What did I say to make you think I was taking it
personally?

The name "marriage" is the problem.  Here's the way I see it:

It's something that individuals in one group are hoarding over another
group.  It's not that one group wants something that the other has, it's
that, by law, they are being denied the right to that something that's
afforded to everyone in the other group.

I'm being vague above for a reason - you can replace the "somethings"
with anything tangible, and replace the groups with two opposing groups
with different ideas about those somethings.  Abstract, I know, but
that's the way my head works.  We're talking about a definition here,
which is itself pretty abstract.

I have the feeling that most normal folks couldn't care less; it's just
that these two groups have become very vocal in the last few months.
And there's the problem of one group pushing their beliefs on the other;
it goes both ways in this case.  

Anyone care to explain to this liberal how gay marriage causes
"deflation" in already existing heterosexual marriages?  I really don't
understand this argument at all.

     ryan woodsmall
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> Spurling, Shannon
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:50 PM
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> Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] southpark speaks the truth
> 
> As long as the law provides for all the same rights and 
> privileges, what
> is the difference? The name. What you said is exactly the point I was
> trying to make, only you took it personal. I am trying not to get
> personal here, because how I feel about the subject has nothing to do
> with this. 
> Legally, they are good enough. Marriage is a form of civil union,
> nothing more in the eyes of the state. They could change 
> every thing to
> be a civil union, and that would still not fix the problem. 
> The problem
> is that one group wants what the other has. The other group feels that
> giving it to them would change the meaning of what they have. It's all
> about intangibles like respect, recognition, and morality , not law.
> Until we understand that, there is no way this can be dealt with.
> 
> Shannon Spurling
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