RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION]BeerlessGeeks[was(nowmembersmeetingquestion)on members list]

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

> > I'd go to either a drinking party or to a dry party. The real problem
> > with LUG gatherings is the lack of women. I think if you added two women
> > for every guy at the party that nobody would refuse to show up over the
> > lack of alcohol. Damn it get your priorities straight people! We need
> > software demos.

Actually I was being silly.

> The real problem is not lack of women, it's the complete nonexistence of
> meetings.  Am I wrong?  When are you having meetings?  The sortware demo
> idea is great, but who is offering to demo?  If the MLUG President isn't
> going to try to move forward with a meeting/demo/etc., maybe someone else
> should be voted into office.

I have meetings all the time.. just I'm the only one here. The software
demo was a bad joke in ragard to women.

> Regarding alcohol:  You know that MLUG should not have alcohol at official
> MLUG meetings.  That's a bad idea for several reasons, some of them legal.
> But, no matter how anyone feels about alcohol, a lot of people like it, so
> why doesn't one of those people just write to the MLUG members list and
> say "I'll be at XXXX for a beer on YYYYY night at ZZZZ o'clock."  Pick a
> happy hour somewhere, or whatever, and go for it.  It's not an official
> MLUG meeting and people who don't want to drink or be around drinkers can
> stay away from it.  Who knows, you might meet people you like and write
> programs together.  If another member wanted to organize a similarly
> informal meeting at a place that did not serve alcohol, s/he is free to do
> so.

Official meetings should be left open to teenagers. That should either
mean no alcohol or meetings in a location where some people can drink and
other don't have to. My teenage meetings of this kind were usually in
pizza joints. Hang out meetings is fine in adult locations though.

> Regarding women:  True, there aren't a lot of women in MLUG, and I don't
> know of a good way to get them into MLUG or to attend a meeting.  That
> doesn't mean it's impossible to find women who are interested either in
> Linux or in the men of MLUG.  Maybe the women who are already in MLUG can
> do something to encourage more women to join.  Also, I know that some of
> you guys live in Missour and actually know women (or are even married to a
> woman!) -- have you actually tried to talk women into joining MLUG or
> attending MLUG meetings?  I'm not sure that we've done much recruiting.

I gave up women (as well as alcohol, caffine, and other vices) so it
really doesn't mean much to me. I just find it a funny subject.

Actually opening up Linux to non-white teen to middle age white guys is of
interest to me though. I'd like to see more women interested in technology
in general and especially in opensource. Since opensource programmers tend
to develop what they'd like then if you can get more women to develop
opensource software then naturally more women will find what interests
them in Linux. I think for one that women would do a better job at
developing more family-oriented software. Children's games, family
management software, things of that sort.
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