RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] speaking of apocalyptic horsemen...

[Jennifer Dozar <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Russell Horn wrote:

>
> > Its not about poverty or education, the problem is we have
> > subsidies for breeding children with these problems. We're PAYING
> > to have a problem get worse. The issue is that we need to pay for
> > education of the poor, not for the excessive breeding of the
> > poor. Capping a tax benefit at 2 children would help. We have
> > free contraceptives in poor areas, but when the result of not
> > using them is a tax write-off that in 4 years will start bringing
> > you your beer when you want it, why use them? Its not simply the
> > poor that are breeding, its the system abusers that eventually
> > will out-breed the rest in a system so prone to it as this.
> > Further, a penalty for fly-by-night fathers would help as well.
>
> If that were the case, would it not be rampant in a country like I am living
> in (Scotland) where we have had a social security system that has cared for
> invalids and the unemployed for well over half a century, where education is
> free until the age of eighteen, and university education costs less than
> $1,500 per year?
>
> What we see is poverty levels declining and the educational level of the
> population rising. Surely that makes for "better" people?
>
> Why are you so determined to punish rather than care? The evidence from
> elsewhere in the globe speaks loudly against the fallacy of your argument.
>
> Russell.

I agree with you on the international level. I have seen pretty good
systems, or i guess read about and know ppl in, with support of their
people. Even the more socialistic health care, every one recieves it! It
may not be horribly pratical if you have some horribly disease, like
cancer, but if you are sick with something else you are cared for, broken
bone, you are cared for. In a lot of cases, that's all the sick people get
anyway. THe united states is very big on punishing. if you haven't
noticed...  You guys may think i'm wrong, but honestly, think about it?
They try to show they care, but they end up punishing that person that
they cared for. I know that is not a whole theory, but it is a
generalization.  And America has a hard enough time feeling enough of
their own country's ppl, how come they feel the need to give food to
others?  As I also said in a previous post, there are alternatives
available to those ppl.  They should be able to get funding for school.
They just have to loko for some of those options.



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