RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] centurytel buys another optical network...

["Spurling, Shannon" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I guess you guys don't realize exactly how the university actualy connects to the internet, do you.... Or how cheaply it actualy gets it's bandwidth? It's very difficult to get any fiber facilities into Columbia. In fact, most of the internet, bar the long haul carriers, are actualy connected with copper.
For more information about how Mizzou, Stephens, Columbia College, the City of Columbia, Columbia Public Schools, and even DBRL get their internet connectivity, check out http://www.more.net.
Sorry for the shameless plug. :-)
 
Shannon 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: King, Jonathan W. 
	Sent: Sat 2/15/2003 10:59 PM 
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	Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] centurytel buys another optical network...
	
	


	On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Roberts, Michael J. (IATS) wrote:
	
	> I doubt it.  I bet CenturyTel bought this network to make more money
	> through leasing wavelengths and/or dark fiber to large customers that
	> want to run their own ring, not to provide more bandwidth to the average
	> xDSL user like our selves.
	
	Well, I actually was more interested in the possibility that this would
	lead to more and better bandwidth for, e.g., the university or other large
	users in Columbia.  The last I'd heard about the university's deal, it was
	for fiber backhauled from (I think) KC.  I'm guessing that limitations to
	xDSL around here aren't limited by this but by dorky local switch/DSLAM
	issues.
	
	> A good question to ask CenturyTel is how large of a connection do they
	> have provisioned for commodity internet access for the Columbia, MO ADSL
	> customers. 
	
	Yes, that is a good one.  For that matter, does anybody know how much
	total bandwidth in and out of Columbia there is at this point?  (Either in
	use or potentially).
	
	> For example, a super fast gigabit ethernet LAN is really nice, but if
	> you are accessing resources outside your LAN, you are only as fast as
	> your slowest link, which in most people's cases is their commodity
	> Internet connection or a WAN link.  Even though CenturyTel is a major
	> telco, they still have to link into a major backbone or larger provider.
	
	Yes, and I don't know anything about those arrangements, other than the
	fact that they just spent $38 million for what they just bought, and that
	runs right through the service are, so I'm assuming that they just became
	potentially a lot more important in the local bandwidth market.  ATT
	almost certainly has the most fiber running through Columbia at the
	moment; they had Velocita run a truly tremendous amount through for them
	and then just bought up the bankrupt remains of that company which doubled
	the amount again.  But I don't think hardly any of that actually ends up
	supporting any local uses at this time.
	
	> Those interfaces cost an unbelievable amount of money.  Shannon could
	> give you some more insight there.
	
	Even without the real numbers, I know there's a good reason why 90%+ of
	all fiber laid is still dark. :-)
	
	jking
	
	
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