MLUG: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] wireless downtown Columbia
RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] wireless downtown Columbia
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Wep keys are crackable... you could possibly do what hotels do and require people to pay for connections by routing all unauthenticated connections to the "login or sign up" SSL website.  And you could probably devise some sort of safe IPSEC/VPN to open internet connection client to allow a customer to connect all around the city and not be too hassled.
I don't think it'd be feasible to use wep keys at all in this situation.  To make this work, you need to have *any* user working in seconds, without involving waitresses at restaurants and the like.  The only good way I've seen this done was through an http redirection system, so that no matter what page they come up to, unless they've got a recognised account/connection/mac/pppoe, they come up to a connection page, or a page that tells them who to call to sign up.
 
After you've got a usable (to lamens) signup system and the initial investment out of the way, you find an ISP to provide you a certain Quality Of Service account for bandwidth.  Frame relay connections are good ideas for this scenario, because you can spike somewhat without requiring purchase of a larger pipe.  I'm not a big fan of FR, but it seems the economical choice here.
Then you can ensure that a certain amount of bandwidth is available, and increase/decrease its size based on the number of accounts you have.
 
*THEN*, you get to find a way to deal with abusers and hackers.
 
This will be the largest overhead, next to the bandwidth.  If you use some sort of pppoe or ipsec tunnel and appropriate termination hardware, I think you could actually cap or smartly limit abusers. (people using too much bandwidth).
 
Sounds mostly feasible in the long run, but choosing the appropriate connection class will be the fun part.
 
I'd suggest that an 11k$ initial investment wouldn't be enough to procure the proper routing hardware to do this on a large scale, but would probably be enough to fullfill all requirements for downtown columbia.
 
Lastly, you'd need a lot of access to a lot of building roofs that people typically don't get access to, but if you can put a few antennas on top of Tiger Hotel, let me know.  I'll *help*.  :D
 
n8
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I personally think that a very low cost subscription to the wifi network by the city would be best... so say if a downtown restaurant wants to offer wifi, it will have to buy a regularly updated wep key every month from the city.  The same would be done to whoever wants in on the thing... the city would basically become it's own isp, but could charge less than the commercial isps (so maybe that's a bad idea due to monopoly)... or maybe a tax of some sort? 

- Jeff Thomann -

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