Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] home rewiring: the next to final chapter?

[Jonathan King <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Mikhail Kovalenko wrote:

> Jonathan King wrote:
> >
> [...]
> > Getting to the cat5, I presume I can take the two cables and make
> > one into a standard phone line for now, and the other into an
> > ethernet port.  Then, whenever I need to, I can move the phone over
> > and use the whole second wire for whatever.  Or, is there any reason
> > to put everything in the one cable to start and save the second
> > "virgin" one for a rainy day?
>
> Now, my telco friend recommends separating the Ethernet and phone
> services into different cables. At this point it is really your call.

I think I'll keep 'em separate, then.  Nobody has really recommended doing
it all in one cable.

> > stuff, Misha Kovalenko convinced me it's just as easy to put in a
> > double-gang box with a bunch of RJ-45 jacks wired up in it, and
> > then just use patch cables to hook up to my switch/hub.  I guess
> > there wouldn't be such a thing as a cheap and reliable telephone
> > hub, would there?  (Yes, I'm naive...why do you ask?)
>
> From looking at Ethernet patch panels and comparing them to what a
> double- or a triple-gang faceplate filled with RJ-45 snap-ins looks
> like, there's very little difference. For phone stuff, if you want to
> keep it neat, you'll still want to go with a (inexpensive) panel.

This has now also been the universal advice on the subject.  Punch down,
here I come.

> > Oh yeah: a simple question.  How long a "tail" should I leave coming
> > out of the boxes before the drywall dudes come in?  I've got very
> > very very long tails now, since I didn't want to screw up in the
> > other direction, but I don't want stuff to get in the way...
>
> Those boxes aren't very big, I wouldn't leave more than a 1-1.5 feet.

OK, so some of those patch cables will be like 3 feet long. :-)

> You can feed the extra cable back into the wall. The most trouble here
> comes from those fat TV cables because they don't bend well and don't
> fit in the boxes :)

TELL me about it.  RG-59 is pretty wimpy stuff, and I'd heard that RG-6
was stiffer.  But I didn't count on how stiff the quad-shielded stuff is.
"Doesn't bend well" is pretty much an understatement.

jking


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