[MLUG - DISCUSSION] JSP and Objects (was web development language of choice)

["Ross, Matt" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I'm in agreement with you, but I'm trying to keep an open mind.  I hated
working with Java, it was like C++ without patience for imperfect users.
Supposedly EJB (enterprise java beans) are the alternative to com and corba,
in that they are the three ways of making objects.  He couldn't come up with
an example that couldn't be done in perl, so I guess I'll ask if anyone here
can.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
> Subject: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] web development language of choice
> 
> 
> I'd be interested in hearing any reasons to use JSP other 
> than all your
> programers know Java anyway so it saves relearning basic
> skills. Everything i've seen comparing it to say perl, 
> python, or php is
> that it's somewhat annoying having to compile your programs 
> to test them
> but is otherwise about the equiv of php.
> 
> "Don't sweat it -- it's not real life.  It's only ones and zeroes."
>                -- spaf (1988?)
> 
> *^*^*^*
> Michael McGlothlin <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
> http://mlug.missouri.edu/~mogmios/projects/
> 
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Ross, Matt wrote:
> 
> > Let me know how that works out, I've got a friend and 
> co-worker learning JSP
> > right now.  If it's a pain in the arse to learn, let me 
> know so I can stop
> > him before he convinces management that JSP is the wave of 
> the future. ;-)
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marcus Semanek [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 1:34 PM
> > > To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
> > > Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] web development language 
> of choice
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Perl will give you error message too, just look at the
> > > error log.  Why post out all the intricate details of
> > > your bugs to the rest of the world.  If you want Perl
> > > scripts to do anything more than PHP can do then I
> > > don't think Perl is that difficult to learn.  My first
> > > job required me to learn it in a week, of course I was
> > > no expert but I could do just as much as I could in
> > > PHP.  I've been doing Perl for 3 years now and my
> > > company is about to start doing Servlets/JSP so I've
> > > started looking into that as well, haven't gotten that
> > > far into it.
> > > 
> > > -marcus
> > > 
> > > --- "Igor Izyumin Jr." <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> > > > > As the site isn't PHP-biased as far as I can tell
> > > > (like a php.net
> > > > > poll would be) those numbers interest me.
> > > > Yes, they are strange.  Hotscripts.com was mostly a
> > > > CGI/Perl site as far as I 
> > > > can remember.  However, it's pretty obvious why it
> > > > is so.  Perl is not a web 
> > > > language, and is much harder to learn.  PHP is very
> > > > easy, and quite powerful. 
> > > >  Not to mention that you actually get sensible
> > > > errors out of it, not just an 
> > > > "Internal Server Error" when it doesn't work.
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