Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Microsoft: Evil Empire or Suitable Software?

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Mozilla depends a lot on which build you grab since it is in constant flux
of battling bugs and working on speed-ups. RAM also seems to count for a
lot but at these prices that is no longer an issue IMO.

I don't care for Opera.. not that it is bad.. it just seems a bit
funky.. and it is commercial so I have my excuss to ignore it as long as
I'm not being paid to do web design. :)

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Michael McGlothlin <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
http://www.kavlon.com

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Jennifer Dozar wrote:

> Mozzilla is BIG and Laggy :P at least in my expierence with it. I stick to
> N etscape for more things.  Bojan (a co-worker) has this strange obession
> with Opera, yet complains when sites won't work on it ;) haha. 
> IE is a HORRIBLY browser. it is a virus that takes over your whole
> computer. 
> 
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> 
> (I liked that one, Jon :) So I'm using it!)
> 
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Michael wrote:
> 
> > IE is a horrible browser from both a programmer and a users end point. I
> > know all the little tricks for it and still hate it. The only problem is
> > that Netscape is at least as bad. Mozilla is much better than either. I'm
> > not a big Konquerer fan either but it is probably at least as good as IE
> > for the most part. W/ IE not including Java support in future versions it
> > could be interesting to see how things turn out. :)
> > 
> > *^*^*^*
> > Michael McGlothlin <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
> > http://www.kavlon.com
> > 
> > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Ian Monroe wrote:
> > 
> > > Windows 98 any edition always comes up with BSODs and is not a secure
> > > operating system. Any sotfware can access pratically any part of the
> > > memory, what is up with that? And there are the GDI resources that limit
> > > the how one can multiask because it uses "magic numbers" instead of real
> > > pointers, which is legacy from 3.1 version of Windows in the 4 mb's of ram
> > > days. Windows 2000 I've never used, but it still has some of the mentioned
> > > legacy though not as bad as 98 (I've read).
> > > 
> > > I agree IE is one of the best browsers (Konqueror coming in a close
> > > second), but you have to wonder if that isn't because it is the most
> > > popular browser. Perhaps any browser that is the popular browser (and not
> > > really unstable like all browers were a few years ago) will be the best
> > > because then web pages will write to it.
> > > 
> > > And wasn't Outlook responible for the Melissa virsus? The Melissa virsus
> > > was the best example of why having so many people using the same software
> > > is a Bad Thing.
> > > 
> > > I've never actually used Messenger but I don't like it because it is
> > > on the default install (I think) meaning it will pop on the school
> > > computers which are installed by people to lazy to uncheck those things.
> > > 
> > > And IIS should be added to the Prosecution. Isn't it supposed to be doing
> > > its worm-induced massive DDOS actacks as I write this? 
> > > 
> > > Ian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, McNutt, Justin M. wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Prosecution's Evidence:
> > > >  
> > > > Internet Explorer v4.0
> > > > Windows 3.1
> > > > Windows 95
> > > > MS Office (any version)
> > > > Windows XP
> > > > "Subscription" licenses
> > > > WINS
> > > > Active Directory
> > > > Hotmail
> > > >  
> > > > Defense's Evidence:
> > > >  
> > > > Internet Explorer v5.5
> > > > Outlook (well, at least OL98)
> > > > Windows 98 (NOT SE)
> > > > Windows 2000
> > > > Active Directory
> > > > MS SQL server
> > > > Flight Simulator
> > > > Solitaire
> > > > Minesweeper
> > > > Freecell
> > > > 3D Cadet Pinball
> > > > MSN Messenger
> > > >  
> > > > Just sticking to software, and not necessarily business practices (I
> > > > consider "subscription licenses" to walk the line, since it's part of the
> > > > software).  Their business practices are heinous, but what about the actual
> > > > products?  Hmmm...
> > > > 
> > > > Later... 
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