RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Microsoft: Evil Empire or Suitable Softw are?

[Nate K <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

NT\2000 shouldn't have those memory problems.  The
WINNT Subsystem resembles VMS on the bottom half (i.e.
memory allocation) this is because it is based on VMS.
 Same programmer, microsoft hired him.

Outlook is OK as long as you don't execute any .VBA
files and turn off ActiveX scripting.  

--- "McNutt, Justin M." <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> Windows 98 any edition always comes up with BSODs
> and is not a secure
> > operating system. Any sotfware can access
> pratically any part of the
> > memory, what is up with that? And there are the
> GDI resources 
> > that limit
> > the how one can multiask because it uses "magic
> numbers" 
> > instead of real
> > pointers, which is legacy from 3.1 version of
> Windows in the 
> > 4 mb's of ram
> > days. Windows 2000 I've never used, but it still
> has some of 
> > the mentioned
> > legacy though not as bad as 98 (I've read).
> 
> I put Win98 on the Def. side because it beat the
> crap out of 95, but still
> ran all my progs.  Win98SE broke a few things I use,
> most notably BNFS95,
> which is a little utility we use to write to the
> FLASH cards used by the
> Nortel routers.
> 
> > I agree IE is one of the best browsers (Konqueror
> coming in a close
> > second), but you have to wonder if that isn't
> because it is the most
> > popular browser. Perhaps any browser that is the
> popular 
> > browser (and not
> > really unstable like all browers were a few years
> ago) will 
> > be the best
> > because then web pages will write to it.
> 
> <shrug>  Again, I put it there because it seems to
> be the most stable.
> Netscape any version crashes a hell of a lot more
> often than IE, as does
> Mozilla.  IE certainly has its weaknesses (like the
> inability to turn OFF
> the $^!$& disk cache), but it's still the best.
> 
> > And wasn't Outlook responible for the Melissa
> virsus? The 
> > Melissa virsus
> > was the best example of why having so many people
> using the 
> > same software
> > is a Bad Thing.
> 
> No, the Office Macro language was responsible for
> Melissa.  Not limited to
> Outlook.  Again, I put Outlook on the Def. side
> because - along with its
> weaknesses - Outlook is a pretty bad-ass package.
> 
> No program/suite is going to be perfect, but if it
> does its job without
> undue pain and suffering, I figure it's a pretty
> good app.
> 
> > I've never actually used Messenger but I don't
> like it because it is
> > on the default install (I think) meaning it will
> pop on the school
> > computers which are installed by people to lazy to
> uncheck 
> > those things.
> 
> I only threw that in there because ppl around here
> rave about it.  I hate
> all IM's personally.
> 
> > And IIS should be added to the Prosecution. Isn't
> it supposed 
> > to be doing
> > its worm-induced massive DDOS actacks as I write
> this? 
> 
> IIS should be on the Prosecution for a long list of
> reasons...
> 
> > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, McNutt, Justin M. wrote:
> > 
> > > Prosecution's Evidence:
> > >  
> > > Internet Explorer v4.0
> > > Windows 3.1
> > > Windows 95
> > > MS Office (any version)
> > > Windows XP
> > > "Subscription" licenses
> > > WINS
> > > Active Directory
> > > Hotmail
> > >  
> > > Defense's Evidence:
> > >  
> > > Internet Explorer v5.5
> > > Outlook (well, at least OL98)
> > > Windows 98 (NOT SE)
> > > Windows 2000
> > > Active Directory
> > > MS SQL server
> > > Flight Simulator
> > > Solitaire
> > > Minesweeper
> > > Freecell
> > > 3D Cadet Pinball
> > > MSN Messenger
> > >  
> > > Just sticking to software, and not necessarily
> business practices (I
> > > consider "subscription licenses" to walk the
> line, since 
> > it's part of the
> > > software).  Their business practices are
> heinous, but what 
> > about the actual
> > > products?  Hmmm...
> > > 
> > > Later... 
> > 
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