MLUG: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Microsoft: Evil Empire or Suitable Software?
RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Microsoft: Evil Empire or Suitable Software?
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Windows 98 any edition always comes up with BSODs and is not a secure
> operating system. Any sotfware can access pratically any part of the
> memory, what is up with that? And there are the GDI resources 
> that limit
> the how one can multiask because it uses "magic numbers" 
> instead of real
> pointers, which is legacy from 3.1 version of Windows in the 
> 4 mb's of ram
> days. Windows 2000 I've never used, but it still has some of 
> the mentioned
> legacy though not as bad as 98 (I've read).

I put Win98 on the Def. side because it beat the crap out of 95, but still
ran all my progs.  Win98SE broke a few things I use, most notably BNFS95,
which is a little utility we use to write to the FLASH cards used by the
Nortel routers.

> I agree IE is one of the best browsers (Konqueror coming in a close
> second), but you have to wonder if that isn't because it is the most
> popular browser. Perhaps any browser that is the popular 
> browser (and not
> really unstable like all browers were a few years ago) will 
> be the best
> because then web pages will write to it.

<shrug>  Again, I put it there because it seems to be the most stable.
Netscape any version crashes a hell of a lot more often than IE, as does
Mozilla.  IE certainly has its weaknesses (like the inability to turn OFF
the $^!$& disk cache), but it's still the best.

> And wasn't Outlook responible for the Melissa virsus? The 
> Melissa virsus
> was the best example of why having so many people using the 
> same software
> is a Bad Thing.

No, the Office Macro language was responsible for Melissa.  Not limited to
Outlook.  Again, I put Outlook on the Def. side because - along with its
weaknesses - Outlook is a pretty bad-ass package.

No program/suite is going to be perfect, but if it does its job without
undue pain and suffering, I figure it's a pretty good app.

> I've never actually used Messenger but I don't like it because it is
> on the default install (I think) meaning it will pop on the school
> computers which are installed by people to lazy to uncheck 
> those things.

I only threw that in there because ppl around here rave about it.  I hate
all IM's personally.

> And IIS should be added to the Prosecution. Isn't it supposed 
> to be doing
> its worm-induced massive DDOS actacks as I write this? 

IIS should be on the Prosecution for a long list of reasons...

> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, McNutt, Justin M. wrote:
> 
> > Prosecution's Evidence:
> >  
> > Internet Explorer v4.0
> > Windows 3.1
> > Windows 95
> > MS Office (any version)
> > Windows XP
> > "Subscription" licenses
> > WINS
> > Active Directory
> > Hotmail
> >  
> > Defense's Evidence:
> >  
> > Internet Explorer v5.5
> > Outlook (well, at least OL98)
> > Windows 98 (NOT SE)
> > Windows 2000
> > Active Directory
> > MS SQL server
> > Flight Simulator
> > Solitaire
> > Minesweeper
> > Freecell
> > 3D Cadet Pinball
> > MSN Messenger
> >  
> > Just sticking to software, and not necessarily business practices (I
> > consider "subscription licenses" to walk the line, since 
> it's part of the
> > software).  Their business practices are heinous, but what 
> about the actual
> > products?  Hmmm...
> > 
> > Later... 
> 
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