Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] network scanning?

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I tend to regard door locks and home security as a joke. I once proved 5
minutes after having an alarm installed that anyone with a cell phone
could keep it from going off since the stupid thing hasta call the
security co to do anything. I just assume nobody would bother with my
stuff and if they do I'll either let them have it and collect my insurance
money and buy new stuff or I'll beat the crap out of them. If I ever build
a house I will use technology to keep people out. It's just that in this
country we have the sick idea that we're safe. As someone who's had cops
camped in his frontyard having a gun battle with the guy across the street
I can tell you this is false. I probably will install bulletproof windows
and design my house in such a way that any intruder -- including cops --
will very likely be dead. *shrugs* Never trust anyone. Be very
paranoid. (Remember that in highschool I thought the govt wanted to kill
me. They are the enemy.)

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Michael McGlothlin <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
http://www.kavlon.com

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Igor Izyumin Jr. wrote:

> This is not exactly true.  I'm sure that you do not change the lock on your 
> house every two weeks and that you don't have a steel bulletproof 
> fire-retardant door that can stop burglars with flamethrowers.  You probably 
> don't have big steel bars on your windows, either.  As far as anyone is 
> concerned, your home is probably not secure.  However, you rely on the police 
> to prevent thieves from entering your home.  The same should be true of 
> computer security.  Crackers should be found, prosecuted, and jailed.  And I 
> can assure you that the FBI has excellent tracing abilities, no matter how 
> well you hide yourself.  There is no excuse for cracking into systems.  It 
> should be a felony, period.  Of course, I'm not saying that it should be 
> illegal to ping/scan another system.  Sure, it can lead to an attack 
> (burglars often knock on doors to find out if anyone's home), but it's not 
> illegal (there are some legitimate reasons to knock on someone's door).  And 
> rest assured that if the maximum penalty for compromising another computer is 
> something even close to the penalty for burglary (and the crackers are found 
> as actively as burglars are), cracking will be rare.

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