RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] network scanning?

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Depends who you take it from. With my personality traits I'd always take
money from the people with to much of it. I have a Robin Hood complex so
more than likely I'd take the money and give it away again to people I
think need it more. Sure if you rob from the rich they punish the poor
SOB's under them but if you keep giving the $$$ away to the needy it gets
redistributed in a much more fair manner than it otherwise would. Of
course someone else might be likely to still the money and just buy sports
cars and big houses for themselves. :)

In my experience payroll doesn't need any help lossing employees money --
they're very good at it already. I'm sure lots of people would be really
upset if their company database was down for a few days forcing them to be
paid to browse the Net and chat.

About the worst none death event I can think of that'd be pretty easy to
do with a computer attack is forcing a company out of business. I'm really
surprised that threat alone isn't enough to interest companies in
protecting themselves. A hacker breaking in and destorying your computers
and leaking your customer data all over the Net in a very public way could
easily put small to medium companies under and majorly hurt even major
companies. Yet you can still scan a lot of e-comm sites and see databases
wide open to attack or on the same machine as weak services. I dare to say
with a lil luck you could probably crack two or three companies a day and
get away (without being caught) with 1000's of credit cards.

Nope it doesn't give me the right but I could do it anyway if I wanted to
be a prick. Luckily I'm to lazy to bother. It's more fun watching other
people do it on tv.

Ummm... flaming nun joke.. Holy Smoke?

Umm my original question was if it was legal and I'm still not entirely
sure.. heard several different answers.. I'll just take it as a maybe and
go back to making nun jokes as I don't think we're actually arguing or 
discussing anything anymore really. :)

*^*^*^*
Michael McGlothlin <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
http://www.kavlon.com

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, McNutt, Justin M. wrote:

> So long as you can accept the consequences if you get caught, and as long as
> you realize that those millions of dollars came from somewhere, and you can
> bet that people will suffer for the loss of that money.
> 
> What if it's a payroll computer?  What if it's one of the J-School systems
> that helps them put out their paper?  What if it's any number of other
> systems that people rely on to do their jobs?  Just because somebody doesn't
> die doesn't mean somebody doesn't suffer.
> 
> That may be the case, but that doesn't give you the right to go and kick it
> over.
> 
> <grin>
> 
> "Nun's Flambe?"

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