RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Installing kernel 2.4

[Ryan Woodsmall <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Yup, super easy.  I don't know if there are any patches for ext3 under
2.4.x yet, though.  It might already be included in 2.4, but I doubt it. 
Ext3 works flawlessly under 2.2.18.  You can get the latest patches for
ext from:

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/sct/ext3

The directions in the patch tar files (they're in the 'README' file in the
above directory as well) are very easy to follow if you've ever compiled a
kernel.  There are even directions on how to revert back to ext2
permanently if your ext3 journal gets whacked.

If you want to use resierfs, you'll have to create a new partion or
completely wipe an existing partition of data and make a resierfs file
system on that partition.  That's why converting everything to ext3 is so
nice; it's non-destructive and pretty safe as long as you're in
single-user mode.  Resierfs != ext3...

How many people are running 2.4?  I've tried it on my home machine and
some machines at work and it just doesn't seem like it's worth it.  We've
had random lockups and filesystems that just disappear on new high-end
equipment.  That's no good.  It just doesn't seem to be 1/2 as stable as
2.2, and the features that are added aren't enough to make me give up the
stability of the machines that I have full reign over.  So, why must
people be bleeding edge? ;)  Personally, I'd rather wait until 2.4.10 and
have a stable kernel than have a bleeding edge machine that crashes all
the time...  Of course, this is coming from a sysadmin and not a user
perspective, so take it with a gallon of salt.

        Ryan Woodsmall
            EMAIL:PROTECTED
            http://web.missouri.edu/~rbwa44/

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Stephen Bohm wrote:

> How do you get ext3 on a system already using ext2?  I just compiled the
> 2.4.1 kernel and enabled ReiserFS, but it didn't start using it.. which I
> guess is expected.  Anyways, is it easy to setup ext3?
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMAIL:PROTECTED
> [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ian
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
> Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Installing kernel 2.4
> 
> 
> With ext3, you don't have to reformant your hard drives. So, if your
> installing on new computers it might make more sense to use ReiserFS.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
> To: <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Installing kernel 2.4
> 
> 
> > How does ext3 differ from Reiser?
> >
> > *^*^*^*
> > Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for they will shape
> > you. -- Albert Einstein
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Ryan Woodsmall wrote:
> >
> > > Umm... Try /usr/src/vmlinuz* - the kernel is generally called
> > > vmlinuz-something.  My 2.2.18 kernel with ext3 support is
> > > vmlinuz-2.2.18ext3, for example.  Copy this file to /boot, and follow
> the
> > > steps Igor outlined for making lilo see it and be able to boot it.
> > >
> > > Have you ever compiled a kernel before?  If no, I really really REALLY
> > > would suggest not starting with 2.4; maybe just try to recompile the
> > > kernel that came with your distro or 2.2.18 to cut your teeth.  The 2.4
> > > series might also need quite a few tools updated, unless you're running
> > > Redhat or Mandrake 7.x.
> > >
> > > Kernel installs are not something that you want to screw up, but you can
> > > always save yourself  by keeping an old kernel around and in your
> > > /etc/lilo.conf file.  Kernel 2.4 has some problems as well.  Read some
> of
> > > the kernel dev lists for more info, but I understand that there are some
> > > file system corruption problems in 2.4.1 (albeit not very common).
> Still,
> > > a nasty bug, that.
> > >
> > > As a sidenote, has anyone played with ext3?  It's pretty nice and
> > > seemingly stable, even though it's only at version 0.0.5e.  I'll be
> > > rolling it out on 120-odd machines in the GCB labs pretty quick, because
> > > watching a 16 GB partition fsck for 10-20 minutes is a mind-numbing
> > > experience and a real show stopper when you have to get work done.
> > >
> > >         Ryan Woodsmall
> > >             EMAIL:PROTECTED
> > >             http://web.missouri.edu/~rbwa44/
> > >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> To manage your subscription, go to http://mlug.missouri.edu/members/edit.php
> 
> Archives are available at http://mlug.missouri.edu/list-archives/
> 
> --
> To manage your subscription, go to http://mlug.missouri.edu/members/edit.php
> 
> Archives are available at http://mlug.missouri.edu/list-archives/
> 

--
To manage your subscription, go to http://mlug.missouri.edu/members/edit.php

Archives are available at http://mlug.missouri.edu/list-archives/